เธ‚เธญเน€เธŠเธดเธเธ™เธฑเธเธซเธกเธฒเธเธฃเธธเธเธชเธฒเธเธฅเน€เธ‚เน‰เธฒเธฃเนˆเธงเธกเธเธฒเธฃเนเธ‚เนˆเธ‡เธ‚เธฑเธ™เธซเธกเธฒเธเธฃเธธเธเธชเธฒเธเธฅ TCA/Prajuab Cup
เธงเธฑเธ™เธ—เธตเนˆ 16,22-23 เธชเธดเธ‡เธซเธฒเธ„เธก 2552
เธฃเธฐเธšเธšเธชเธงเธดเธช 6 เธฃเธญเธš(เธˆเธณเธเธฑเธ”32เธ„เธ™)
เธชเธ–เธฒเธ™เธ—เธตเนˆ เธšเธฒเธ‡เธเธญเธเธšเธฅเธนเน€เธฅเธญเธงเธฒเธ”เธ—เนŒ เธ–เธ™เธ™เธฃเธฒเธŠเธžเธคเธเธฉเนŒ
เธ„เนˆเธฒเธชเธกเธฑเธ„เธฃ 500เธšเธฒเธ— เธชเธกเธฒเธŠเธดเธ TCA 400 เธšเธฒเธ—(เธญเธฒเธซเธฒเธฃ 3 เธกเธทเน‰เธญ/เธเธฒเนเธŸเนเธฅเธฐเน€เธ„เธฃเธทเนˆเธญเธ‡เธ”เธทเนˆเธก)
เธฃเธฒเธ‡เธงเธฑเธฅ 3000/2000/1000
เธชเธกเธฑเธ„เธฃเน„เธ”เน‰เธ—เธตเนˆ เธฅเธ‡เธŠเธทเนˆเธญเธˆเธฃเธดเธ‡ เธ™เธฒเธกเธชเธเธธเธฅเธˆเธฃเธดเธ‡เนƒเธ™เน€เธงเธ›เธ™เธตเน‰
เธฅเธ‡เธ—เธฐเน€เธšเธตเธขเธ™ 9.00 เธ™

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เธฃเธฒเธขเธเธฒเธฃเธ™เธตเน‰ Fide Rate
เน€เธเธก 90/30

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เธ‚เธญเธชเธกเธฑเธ„เธฃเธ„เธ™เนเธฃเธเน€เธฅเธขเธ„เธฃเธฑเธšเธžเธตเนˆเธ•เน‰เธ™
เธŠเธทเนˆเธญ เธ™เธฒเธขเธชเธฃเธฐเธžเธ‡เธฉเนŒ เธซเธฒเธเธชเธดเธ‡เธซเนŒ
Fide Rate 1766 เธ„เธฃเนŠเธฒเธŸ

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Poompong Wiwatanadate
FIDE ID 6201083
elo 1979

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Sawapop Tuamsang
Rating 1969

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OK , Very nice , I apply for the Rated Tournament,
rate 16xx ; for 16 th Aug, 2009 .
Ekasith Buasroung
8 th July 2009 ;

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เธœเธนเน‰เธˆเธฑเธ”เธเน‡เน€เธฅเนˆเธ™เธ™เธฐ เธชเธซเธžเธฅ เธ™เธฒเธ„เธงเธฒเธ™เธดเธŠ/19xx

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เน€เธžเธดเนˆเธกเธฃเธฒเธขเธŠเธทเนˆเธญ 1Henry calacday, 2 Eric Calacday, 3 Manolo salamida, 4 Noelito Parami, 5 Abner Taawan,
6 Pauleandru euloria

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เน€เธžเธดเนˆเธกเน€เธ•เธดเธกเธ‚เน‰เธญเธกเธนเธฅ
permanent Fide ratings as follows:
Henry Calacday 2044
Eric Calacday 1967
Paulleandru Elauria 1719

provisional fide ratings:
Manolo Salamida (1949)
Noelito Parami (1939)
Abner Taawan (1728)

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เธ‚เธญเธชเธกเธฑเธ„เธฃเน€เธ‚เน‰เธฒเนเธ‚เนˆเธ‡เธ‚เธฑเธ™เธ„เธฃเธฑเธš
Pramote Somprasong Rating 1949

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Wisuwat TherdKaittikul Rating (1975)

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เธ‚เธญเธชเธกเธฑเธ„เธฃเธ”เน‰เธงเธขเธ„เธ™เธ„เธฃเธฑเธš
เธ›เธดเธขเธฐเธžเธฅ เธงเธดเธงเธฐเธฃเธดเธ™เธ—เธฃเนŒ Piyapon Wiwarin
ELO 1770
เธ—เธฃเธฒเธšเธกเธฒเธ„เธฃเนˆเธฒเธงเน†เธงเนˆเธฒเธเธตเธฌเธฒเธ˜เธฃเธฃเธกเธจเธฒเธชเธ•เธฃเนŒ75เธ›เธตเธˆเธฐเธกเธตเธฃเธธเนˆเธ™ Open เนเธฅเธฐเธฃเธธเนˆเธ™เธญเธธเธ”เธกเธจเธถเธเธฉเธฒ เธงเธฑเธ™เนเธ‚เนˆเธ‡ 29-30 เธชเธดเธ‡เธซเธฒ
(เธชเธฑเธ›เธ”เธฒเธซเนŒเธ•เนˆเธญเธˆเธฒเธเธ‡เธฒเธ™เธ™เธตเน‰) เธ–เน‰เธฒเธกเธตเธฃเธฒเธขเธฅเธฐเน€เธญเธตเธขเธ”เน€เธžเธดเนˆเธกเน€เธ•เธดเธกเธœเธกเธˆเธฐเธ›เธฃเธฐเธเธฒเธจเธญเธตเธเธ—เธตเธ„เธฃเธฑเธš

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เธฃเธฒเธขเธฅเธฐเน€เธญเธตเธขเธ”เธเธฒเธฃเนเธ‚เนˆเธ‡เธ‚เธฑเธ™
เธงเธฑเธ™เธญเธฒเธ—เธดเธ•เธขเนŒ 16 เธชเธดเธ‡เธซเธฒเธ„เธก 2552
09.00เธ™.เธฅเธ‡เธ—เธฐเน€เธšเธตเธขเธ™
10.00เธ™.เนเธ‚เนˆเธ‡เธฃเธญเธšเธ—เธตเนˆ 1
14.30เธ™.เนเธ‚เนˆเธ‡เธฃเธญเธšเธ—เธตเนˆ 2

เธงเธฑเธ™เน€เธชเธฒเธฃเนŒเธ—เธตเนˆ 22 เธชเธดเธ‡เธซเธฒเธ„เธก 2552
10.00เธ™.เนเธ‚เนˆเธ‡เธฃเธญเธšเธ—เธตเนˆ 3
14.30เธ™. เนเธ‚เนˆเธ‡เธฃเธญเธšเธ—เธตเนˆ 4

เธงเธฑเธ™เธญเธฒเธ—เธดเธ•เธขเนŒเธ—เธตเนˆ 23 เธชเธดเธ‡เธซเธฒเธ„เธก 2552
10.00เธ™. เนเธ‚เนˆเธ‡เธฃเธญเธšเธ—เธตเนˆ 5
14.30เธ™. เนเธ‚เนˆเธ‡เธฃเธญเธšเธ—เธตเนˆ 6
18.00เธ™. เธกเธญเธšเน€เธ‡เธดเธ™เธฃเธฒเธ‡เธงเธฑเธฅเนเธฅเธฐเธ–เน‰เธงเธขเธฃเธฒเธ‡เธงเธฑเธฅ

เธเธฒเธฃเนเธ‚เนˆเธ‡เธ‚เธฑเธ™ เนƒเธŠเน‰ FIDE Laws of Chess
เธชเธณเธซเธฃเธฑเธš tie-break system เนƒเธŠเน‰ Buchhulz, Sonneborn-Berger, Numberof win with Black
and use new laws 0 minutes

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Are you sure about using Buchholz as the primary tie-break?

In a 32-player, 6 round SS, it is quite possible to cause confusion in the last round !

e.g. Player A with 5 point meets Player B with 4 point... and if Player B wins, Player A will get
Buchholz points from B !!

Official FIDE tie-break prefers "results between players" as the Primary tie-break...

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Yes,there are and there has been use these for many tounament since TSD Thailand championship 2006.

For your Example both player will get their Buchholz.

"Offcial FIDE tie-break prefers" which document that prove your statment ? or just you
prefers

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"Offcial FIDE tie-break prefers" = check your book ! or go to FIDE website...

It is NOT what I --nor anyone-- prefers >>> it is simply reasonable + correct if each
tie-breaks are UNDERSTOOD for what they FUNDAMENTALLY are.

Buchholz = sum of score of opponents... Thus, after Player A lost to Player B in the last round, his
Buchholz score that he gets from playing Player B = 5 point; at the same time Player B, by winning
the game from Player A, will get ONLY 4 points from Player A for his Buchholz from A... If Player A
and B's other 5 opponents are the same persons (or final scores = same), then A will win on
tie-break !!! >>> WHY ?!?!

Also... "Number of wins with Black" should never be used in a SS anyway... because that
also means "more losses/draws as White" or "play Black on 1st Round (weaker opponent)
!.... Better is "Number of Wins" to encourage fighting chess.



P.S. Yes, Buchholz + sum of Progressive have been used in Thailand Opens etc. but why not SET
STANDARDS now instead of following....Actually, if you want to use Buchholz >>
"Koya" is much better

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OOPS... sorry..sleepy+reading other web :-)


..Player B, by winning the game from Player A, will get SAME 5 points from Player A for his Buchholz
from A... If Player A and B's other 3-4 opponents are the same persons (or final scores = same) [MY
MISTAKE HERE: it is UNLIKELY for all 5 to be same persons],

then A MAY still win on tie-break !!! >>> depends on results of the other 1-2 opponents...
and if 1 withdraws very bad... WHY let the result of Championship depends on other guys (most
likely the guys Player A+B beated in the 1st Round)...
?!?! when B has CLEARLY showed that he is better than A

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1 more and I will shut-up :-)

Tie-Breaks are fundamentaly in 3 TYPEs:- (in logical orders)

1. "Results between players" e.g.
1a Playoffs between players involved in ties [as in tied matches or knockouts, then playoff
games follow... but in SS quite impractical]
1b Results between players involved in ties

2. "Performance of Oppositions" e.g.
2a Buchholz
2b Sonneborn-Berger
2c Koya [not popular]
2d [many others like Performance Ratings, etc]

3. "Other Criterias" e.g.:
3a Sum of Ratings of opponents
3b Numbers of Wins
3c Results with Black against players involved in Ties [as in when 3+ players are tied]
3d Number of games played with Black [because he plays more games with Black but achieves same
scores]
3e [others not so popular, complicated stuffs]

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www.fide.com/fide/handbookid=83&view=article

REF: Article F10

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Thank You, for your piont out however in handbook "The Chess Organiser's Handbook Third
Edition incorporating the 2005 FIDE Laws of Chess"page129 "There is no good tie-break
system for Swisses" and on page127 "Whatever system used, it should be announced in
advance of the start of the tournament. "
All tie-break sytem used are up to organiser, It is not have seem to be a probelm to you before
even the TU Open chess championship or this is a personel problem?

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เน€เธžเธดเนˆเธกเธฃเธฒเธขเธŠเธทเนˆเธญ
Saeheng Boonsueb/ Rating 2313
Pornariyasombat Atppat/ Rating 2167
Srivatanakul Pricha/ Rating 1814

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เนเธœเธ™เธ—เธตเนˆเนเธ‚เนˆเธ‡เธ‚เธฑเธ™ เธ•เธฒเธกเธ™เธตเน‰เธ™เธฐเธ„เธฃเธฑเธš
http://www.thaibg.com/board/view.php?topic=23956

เธ„เธงเธฒเธกเธ„เธดเธ”เน€เธซเน‡เธ™เธ—เธตเนˆ 6

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เนเธ•เนˆเธฅเธฐเธ„เธ™เธ—เธณเน„เธกเน‚เธซเธ”เธˆเธฑเธ‡ เธˆเธฐเน„เธ”เน‰เธเธตเนˆเนเธ•เน‰เธกเน€เธ™เธตเธข T T

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เธกเธตเธเธฒเธเธกเธฒเธซเธ™เธถเนˆเธ‡เธ„เธ™เธ„เธฃเธฑเธš

Yoothajak Wanichayachart
Unrate

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เธกเธตเธ„เธ™เธเธฒเธเธกเธฒ
Parwat Tokakuna
Unrated เธ„เธฃเธฑเธš

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เน€เธžเธดเนˆเธกเธฃเธฒเธขเธŠเธทเนˆเธญ
Meechai Kaewfainok
Sadtra Srisawad

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For foreigner chess player please bring ID document for FIDE rating matters.

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เธชเธณเธซเธฃเธฑเธšเธเธฒเธฃเน€เธ”เธดเธ™เธ—เธฒเธ‡

เธ—เธฒเธ‡เธฃเธ–เธขเธ™เธ•เธฃเนŒ: เธœเนˆเธฒเธ™เธ—เธฒเธ‡ เน€เธ”เธญเธฐเธกเธญเธฅเนŒเธ‡เธฒเธกเธงเธ‡เธจเธงเธฒเธ™เธ•เนŒ(เน€เธ”เธญเธฐเธกเธญเธฅเนŒเธญเธขเธนเนˆเธ‹เน‰เธฒเธขเธกเธทเธญ)
เธ•เธฃเธ‡เธกเธฒเธ›เธฃเธฐเธกเธฒเธ“2เธเธดเน‚เธฅเน€เธกเธ•เธฃเน€เธฅเธตเน‰เธขเธงเธ‹เน‰เธฒเธขเธ—เธฒเธ‡เธชเธฐเธžเธฒเธ™เธžเธฃเธฐเธฃเธฒเธก 5
เนเธฅเน‰เธ‡เธ•เธฃเธ‡เธกเธฒเธญเธตเธ9.6เธเธดเน‚เธฅเน€เธกเธ•เธฃเธˆเธ™เธ–เธถเธ‡เธงเธ‡เน€เธงเธตเธขเธ™เธเธฒเธˆเธเธ™เธฒเธ เธดเน€เธฉเธเนเธฅเน‰เธงเน€เธฅเธตเน‰เธขเธงเธ‚เธงเธฒเธ•เธฃเธ‡เธกเธฒเธญเธตเธ3เธเธดเน‚เธฅเน€เธกเธ•เธฃ
เธšเธฒเธ‡เธเธญเธเธšเธฅเธนเน‚เธฅเธงเธฒเธฅเธญเธขเธนเนˆเธ‚เธงเธฒเธกเธทเธญเน€เธฅเธขเน„เธ›เธญเธตเธ1เธเธดเน‚เธฅเน€เธกเธ•เธฃเธเธฅเธฑเธšเธฃเธ–

เธ—เธฒเธ‡เธชเธฒเธ˜เธฒเธฃเธ“เธฐ: เธกเธฒเธ—เธตเนˆเธ—เนˆเธฒเธ™เน‰เธณเธ™เธ™เธ—เธšเธธเธฃเธตเนเธฅเน‰เธงเธ™เธฑเน‰เธ‡เธฃเธ–เธชเธญเธ‡เนเธ–เธงเธกเธฒเธ—เธตเนˆเธงเธฑเธ”เน‚เธšเธชเธ—เนŒเธ”เธญเธ™เธžเธฃเธซเธก

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เน€เธžเธดเนˆเธกเธชเธกเธฑเธ„เธฃเธญเธตเธ 2 เธ—เนˆเธฒเธ™
1.เธ”เธฃ.เน€เธญเธ ( เธžเธตเนˆเธŠเธฒเธขเธ—เธจเธžเธฅ เธ˜เธ™เธฐเธ—เธดเธžเธฒเธ™เธ™เธ—เนŒ ) เธญเธ”เธตเธ•เนเธŠเธกเธ›เนŒเธเธตเธฌเธฒเธกเธซเธฒเธงเธดเธ—เธขเธฒเธฅเธฑเธขเนเธซเนˆเธ‡เธ›เธฃเธฐเน€เธ—เธจเน„เธ—เธข เธžเธถเนˆเธ‡เธเธฅเธฑเธšเธกเธฒเธˆเธฒเธ USA
เธฃเธฐเธ”เธฑเธšเน€เธ‹เธตเธขเธ™เน†เธฃเธฐเธงเธฑเธ‡เธ•เธฑเธงเธซเธ™เนˆเธญเธขเธ™เธฐ เน€เธžเธฃเธฒเธฐ Opening เธ”เธตเธกเธฒเธเน†
2.เธชเธกเธฒเธŠเธดเธ BBC ( เธœเธกเธ—เธณเธŠเธทเนˆเธญเธซเธฒเธขเธžเธฃเธธเนˆเธ‡เธ™เธตเน‰เธˆเธฐเธชเนˆเธ‡เนƒเธซเน‰เนƒเธซเธกเนˆ ) เธžเธถเนˆเธ‡เธเธฅเธฑเธšเธกเธฒเธˆเธฒเธเธ•เนˆเธฒเธ‡เธ›เธฃเธฐเน€เธ—เธจเน€เธซเธกเธทเธญเธ™เธเธฑเธ™
เธˆเธฒเธ เน‚เธญเธ เธฒเธช เน€เธฃเธทเธญเธ‡เธงเธฃเธฃเธฑเธเธฉเนŒเธจเธดเธฃเธด

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Parwat Tokakuna เธ‚เธญเธ–เธญเธ™เธ•เธฑเธงเธ™เนˆเธฐเธ„เธฃเธฑเธš เน€เธ™เธทเนˆเธญเธ‡เธˆเธฒเธเธ•เธดเธ”เธ˜เธธเธฃเธฐเธ”เนˆเธงเธ™เธ—เธตเนˆเธšเน‰เธฒเธ™ เธ‚เธญเน‚เธ—เธฉเธ”เน‰เธงเธขเธ™เนˆเธฐเธ„เธฃเธฑเธš

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เน€เธญเธ - เธ—เธจเธžเธฃ เธ˜เธ™เธฐเธ—เธดเธžเธฒเธ™เธ™เธ—เนŒ
Thotsaporn Thanatipanonda

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เธญเธตเธเธ„เธ™เธซเธ™เธถเนˆเธ‡เธ„เธฃเธฑเธš

Louis Kirk [USA]
FIDE Rating 1582

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Name: Aung Kyaw Moe
Rating: 1700
want to play.

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เธšเธฑเธ™เธ—เธถเธเธซเธกเธฒเธเธ—เธฑเน‰เธ‡เธซเธกเธ”เธ”เธนเน„เธ”เน‰เธ—เธตเนˆ
http://www.thaibg.com/CHOnline/CHLiveHistory.php?id=46

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เธเธฒเธฃเธ›เธฃเธฐเธเธšเธ„เธนเนˆเธฃเธญเธš 3 เธ„เธฃเธฑเธš

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Standing เธฃเธญเธš 3 เธ„เธฃเธฑเธš

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เธœเธฅเธเธฒเธฃเนเธ‚เนˆเธ‡เธ‚เธฑเธ™เธ„เธฃเธฑเธš

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เธ”เธนเธšเธฑเธ™เธ—เธถเธเธซเธกเธฒเธเธ—เธฑเน‰เธ‡เธซเธกเธ”เน„เธ”เน‰เธ—เธตเนˆเธ™เธตเนˆเธ„เธฃเธฑเธš
http://www.thaibg.com/CHOnline/CHLiveHistory.php?id=46

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เธœเธฅเธเธฒเธฃเนเธ‚เนˆเธ‡เธ‚เธฑเธ™ TCA Prajuab Cup

เธฃเธญเธšเธ—เธตเนˆ 3

Thotsaporn Thanatipanonda 0-1 Boonsueb Saeheng
Aung Kyaw Moe 1/2-1/2 Henry Calacday
Atippat Pornariyasombat 1-0 Monolo Salamida
Sahapol Nakvanich 1-0 Sawapop Tuamsang
Pricha Srivatanakul 1/2-1/2 Pramote Somprasong 3
Poompong Wiwatanadate 1-0 Louis Kirk
Permsak Punsuk 0-1 Sant Pongkiettisak

เธฃเธญเธšเธ—เธตเนˆ 4

Boonsueb Saeheng 1-0 Henry Calacday
Thotsaporn Thanatipanonda 0-1 Atippat Pornariyasombat
Piyapon Wiwarin 1-0 Sahapol Nakvanich
Kannapon Srivachirawat 1-0 Poompong Wiwatanadate
Monolo Salamida 1-0 Pricha Srivatanakul
Sant Pongkiettisak 1/2-1/2 Pramote Somprasong
Sawapop Tuamsang 1-0 Sadtra Srisawad
Louis Kirk 0-1 Permsak Punsuk

เธฃเธญเธšเธ—เธตเนˆ 5

Atippat Pornariyasombat 1-0 Boonsueb Saeheng 5 24 August 2009
Henry Calacday 1-0 Piyapon Wiwarin
Teerapong Tovirat 1-0 Monolo Salamida
Sahapol Nakvanich 0-1 Aung Kyaw Moe
Pramote Somprasong 1-0 Sawapop Tuamsang
Poompong Wiwatanadate 1/2-1/2 Thotsaporn Thanatipanonda
Pricha Srivatanakul 0-1 Sant Pongkiettisak
Eric Calacday 1-0 Permsak Punsuk
Sadtra Srisawad 0-1 Meechai Kaewfainok

เธฃเธญเธšเธ—เธตเนˆ 6

Henry Calacday 0-1 Atippat Pornariyasombat
Boonsueb Saeheng 1/2-1/2 Aung Kyaw Moe
Pramote Somprasong 0-1 Teerapong Tovirat
Monolo Salamida 1/2-1/2 Piyapon Wiwarin
Sant Pongkiettisak 1/2-1/2 Thotsaporn Thanatipanonda
Meechai Kaewfainok 0-1 Poompong Wiwatanadate
Sawapop Tuamsang 1-0 Eric Calacday
Pricha Srivatanakul 1-0 Sahapol Nakvanich
Sadtra Srisawad 1-0 Louis Kirk
Permsak Punsuk 0-1 Ekasith Buasroung

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1.Atippat Pornariyasombat
2.Boonsueb Saeheng
3.Teerapong Tovirat
4.Henry Calacday
5.Piyapon Wiwarin
6.Aung Kyaw Moe
7.Thotsaporn Thanatipanonda
8.Monolo Salamida
9.Pramote Somprasong
10.Poompong Wiwatanadate
11.Sawapop Tuamsang
12.Sant Pongkiettisak
13.Pricha Srivatanakul
14.Kannapon Srivachirawat
15.Sahapol Nakvanich
16.Sadtra Srisawad
17.Meechai Kaewfainok
18.Eric Calacday
19.Louis Kirk
20.Ekasith Buasroung
21.Permsak Punsuk
22.Yoothajak Wanichayachart
23.Wisuwat Therdkiattikul

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